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1 EU countries and the euro
2 Switzerland and the European Union / Use of the Euro in Switzerland
3 Frenchification
4 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Euronews logo text.svg)
5 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Euronews logo globe.png)
6 Categories
7 EU Insignia
8 Template:Foreign relations of the European Union
9 CERN gallery
10 Brussels plans
11 Green E
12 Image:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Nordic_Battlegroup_of_the_European_Union.svg
13 Amazing Map
14 Cool maps
15 Map Request if possible?
16 Image:Location ESA member countries.svg
17 Awesome maps
18 India map
19 UK Map
20 Map work
21 Orthographic maps
22 Sri Lankan orthographic Map
23 Image:Schengen Agreement map.svg
24 Amazing Map!!!
25 Wonderful maps!
26 Commons: orthographic proyection
27 RfD nomination of P:ar
28 Image:Kalmar Union c. 1500-de.svg
29 Euro#Eurozone
30 India map
31 Template:Infobox EU legislation

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EU countries and the euro

Please make contributions to the Sweden and the euro, Denmark and the euro and United Kingdom and the euro. Or just add them to your watchlist to see how they are expanding. Thanks. --Dima1 (talk) 22:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll keep an eye on them. - SSJ ☎ 22:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Switzerland and the European Union / Use of the Euro in Switzerland

I noticed you changed "Switzerland is in the unique position of being surrounded by the Eurozone" to "Switzerland is in the nearly unique position ....". What other country is in that position? Unless you count Liechtenstein, in which case "Switzerland and Liechtenstein (which both use the Swiss Frank) are in the unique position", but that looks ugly. Somebody (not you) changed "Swiss Franks" to Swiss francs". "Franks" is the majority (German) spelling and does link correctly, but I do accept that most banks in the UK use "Swiss francs" TiffaF (talk) 06:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Andorra, Monaco, San Marino... Neither of them are part of the EU, ergo they are not part of the Eurozone. - SSJ ☎ 07:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

But they all use the euro. I think I'll change it to "Switzerland is in the unique position of being surrounded by countries which use the euro" TiffaF (talk) 08:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Frenchification

Hi. The use of Frenchification is not an error. We've checked extensively and it seems that on the internet the use of Frenchification with and without a capital is about equal, and thus whether or not to capitalize it is ambiguous. We've chosen to capitalize it, so at this point, it is just consistency that matters. -Oreo Priest ^talk 00:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Then I'm ok with it. I though it was an error. - SSJ ☎ 00:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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EU Insignia

I like the changes, it looks stylish at last!- : 16:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hah, well yeah when I found out how the stars could be resized in Inkscape, I went for it. - SSJ ☎ 16:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we should merge Template:Politics of the European Union into the mini version, like most countries have? - SSJ ☎ 16:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Interesting point, I did partly attempt it in my 2009 update as I didn't quite like the style of the mini version (with the borders and cramped nature, it doesn't have much of a clean style). I think if we do, we need to think about creating a better style. Other thoughts are if there are things that could do with being visible universally (i.e. we could show the names of the presidents but not details on elections, treaties etc.) and and the order (we could show the institutions together, then notable people - getting around future problems such as the HR being in both the Commission and Council). Thoughts?

And yes, I do have to over complicate every issue :).- : 18:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I really like what you've done there! The white bars for the institutions are excellent. But on the treaties; aren't the amending treaties just confusing people? If people want to know how the EU really works, we should perhaps work on how to present the founding treaties (possibly create separate articles for them). What do you think about that? - SSJ ☎ 18:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't really know how to show the politicians and the institution together in a better way. - SSJ ☎ 18:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for delay. Right, what do you mean about creating pages for the founding treaties, they all have their own pages already. On the leaders, I am working on something new here, it is still a bit of a mess though.- : 14:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think readers will understand the process of amending founding treaties when articles treat the Treaty of Rome like a synonym of the Treaty establishing the European Community. People have to understand that the Treaty establishing the European Community and the Treaty on European Union combined constitute the legal basis of the EU today. They are the de facto EU constitution, they were not historic "founding documents"; they are founding it today. Maastricht launched the Treaty on European Union, it isn't Treaty on European Union.

IMO we should distinguish the founding treaties (Treaty establishing the European Community and Treaty on European Union, not Maastricht and Rome) that are being amended more clearly from the amending treaties (Amsterdam, Nice) by creating new articles with the proper titles. If it's too hard for us who are non-lawyers to distinguish the two, we could start a combined article for the two and call it Legal basis of the European Union or Founding treaties of the European Union. People could be taught more effectively that the amending treaties are amendments and not autonomous rulebooks. Founding treaty = constitution, not some document referred to in past tense. The fact that accession treaties can amend the founding treaties is seemingly not mentioned anywhere.

Template:Politics of the United States doesn't list amendments to the American Constitution. Accordingly I don't see why we would list amendments of the EU's founding treaties in the EU's political box. I reckon the fact that e.g. Nice is called Nice, instead of "amendment number X" confuses people, especially when its placed next to Rome, which currently is alleged to be a founding treaty. - SSJ ☎ 14:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Good point, but first Maastricht is technically the EU treaty, just amended. Just like you might have "The Clean Water Act 2001", and it would be amended. The end result is different from what was passed in 2001 but it is still "The Clean Water Act 2001". What I think you are getting at, is an article called Consolidated treaties of the European Union, though that I think overlaps with the remit of Treaties of the European Union. Perhaps we can start by having the consolidated data in that article and then, once we have an idea of what we are working with, split it off onto an article on its own.

Second point, there are too man amendments to the US constitution to list. I included them in the box as it does no real harm, we could take it out but the space saved is minimal as it is drop down. We just have a few names and the amending treaties do show the development of the EU (well, they would if the articles were decent) and hence show off the political history. Furthermore, I only included Nice (as that would give the most up to date view of the constitutional basis in the absence of a consolidated treaties article) and Lisbon (as that is a current political subject).- : 23:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright, Rome and Maastricht are the founding treaties. I just found it very frustrating that virtually all articles about EU treaties don't seem to 'understand' the issue of what a founding treaty is (not that I'm an expert). When the Maastricht article says "It created the European Union", its misleading people to think of it as an historic text.

I know you know what I mean. Wikisource doesn't have the successively amended consolidated versions of the founding treaties, only the meaningless amending texts. I think it stinks that we have to send people who want to read about the timeless Treaty establishing the European Community to a retrospect article called Treaties of Rome. We just have to do what we can in order to improve the articles and differentiate the founding treaties from the amending treaties. I'm glad you added the clarifying brackets in your sandbox, but we could also emphesise the timeless legal existence of the EU's founding treaties by referring to them by their formal names. I personally think Treaties of the European Union is a very generalising title (sounds like an open list or a vague name for Founding treaties of the European Union and the treaties which amend them). The role of amending treaties could easily described in a section of a renamed article called the e.g. Founding treaties of the European Union. I'm not totally sure; but I feel that writing an informative introduction to Treaties of the European Union is not as easy as it could be if the article's title had been more specific. If we keep the article's title as inclusive as it is right now, it would make sense to include the EC's accession treaty to the WTO and all other treaties which involve the EU. - SSJ ☎ 22:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I think people understand that the articles title refers to those treaties that form the legal basis of the EU, not those treaties which the EU is itself party to. Any confusion there is dealt with in the lead and the use of the word founding limits it to Rome and Maastricht. I think what we should do is concentrate on giving a better outline on the main treaties article of the over all changes and maybe putting more in Rome to show the original treaty and, through describing its history, the amended version. Just like one would describe a constitution as it was first signed and then talk about amendments and the result of what it says today.- : 16:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:Foreign relations of the European Union

Hi again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AForeign_relations_of_the_European_Union&diff=238901845&oldid=238152992

(Sorry, but I think the font-sizes and paddings look better the way they were.)

Perhaps not, looking at this screenshot from Firefox v2.0.0.16 running on a Windows XP PC. Apart from the collisions between the subheadings and the [show] links, note the hanging dividers and the wider gaps between lines within the subsections. Sardanaphalus (talk) 01:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

All of that can be fixed without introducing a new template regime. With

Style="line-height:70%; text-align:left"

- SSJ ☎ 07:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Template now looks like this here. As well as the collisions, I've expanded a different subsection to show some less-than-desirable linewrapping (there's more in other subsections). Hanging dividers also still remain. Sardanaphalus (talk) 08:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Template now looks like this here. Sardanaphalus (talk) 23:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The template still includes some collisions and wide spacings; perhaps restoring it to this version is the straightforward solution? Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

CERN gallery

Hi, your input regarding the CERN gallery will be greatly appreciated at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:CERN#Membership_maps NerdyNSK (talk) 13:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Brussels plans

Have you seen this? [1]- : 17:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

No I haven't, but it's brilliant! The maps are amazing and the text is probably even better. Everything we need. E.g. I noticed the boulevard plans are mentioned. Surely there must be some PD-old tag we can use on those city planning maps from pre-1850. A lot to process. But why did I choose Spanish instead of French in school?! - SSJ ☎ 22:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm wishing I studied harder at it for sure! Almost too much to process, most of what they're talking about will need new articles I think and a lot more on the rebuilding programme. One think I noticed is that there is no mention of the new square near Leopold, hence it is either a recent or unoffical idea or it won't actually be there at all. I am still sceptical about it being an extension of Luxembourg, that would have been mentioned in here I think. Might be worth emailing them about to clear it up but considering we have the massive pedestrian mall of Parliament, I doubt they'd create another right along side it.- : 09:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Green E

Just checking to see if you have seen any other images of the European movement flag about? You're on the commons more than I and I can only find the main image and a small gif it was based on. I was hoping to find one of it being flown somewhere before I trawl Flickr for one hidden there. And FYI, you may be interested in this new petition: www.whodoicall.eu .- : 18:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I didn't find anything on Commons.. And I searched for "green E flag" and "European Movement" on flickr, but found nothing of interest. I have already signed the petition. Thanks;)- SSJ ☎ 21:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Nordic_Battlegroup_of_the_European_Union.svg

I have tagged Image:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Nordic_Battlegroup_of_the_European_Union.svg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. Otherwise, it will be deleted in seven days. Lokal _Profil 21:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Left a reply on my talk page. /Lokal _Profil 20:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Since you haven't commented I've once again replaced the unfree image with the free one. /Lokal _Profil 14:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Amazing Map

Hi Ssolbergj, I saw your European Union map, and I gotta tell you, it's a stunning piece of art you made; I would really like to make a similar map for Mexico so I was wandering if you could help me with it, do you happen to have a blank map of North America so I can highlight Mexico? so I can put the map in the Mexico article; I would appreciate it if you could help me with the map, but if you’re too busy or working on something else, I’ll understand, thanks. Supaman89 (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that looks superb!, you're the best Wiki-designer I've seen so far, thanx. BTW, if you ever need any help with some discussion, just contact me and I'll support you, cheers.Supaman89 (talk) 21:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

As I stated on the EU talk page, I think the new Map is an innovation that should be implemented wiki-wide. Great work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.123.76 (talk) 00:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool maps

I think they are really good and professional, Turkey could do with a professional map like yours for EU, US, Russia, Mexico ect. If you feel up to it could you please create a map for Turkey. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Well maybe its not big enough for a global map, but it could do with a professional map, instead of its current rather crap map. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 17:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Map Request if possible?

Your orthographic projection view maps amaze me I wonder If you can create People's Republic of China orthographic projection view map too. If you cannot thank you anyways sorry for my request if you are busy. — ~∀SÐFﾑｻ~ =] ^{Babashi? antenna? 23:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)}

Thank you very much. — ~∀SÐFﾑｻ~ =] ^{Babashi? antenna? 01:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)}

Image:Location ESA member countries.svg

There has been an update in the article: Ukraine has also signed a cooperation agreement with ESA. Could you update the image please. I'd do it myself but haven't the slightest idea how. Thank you. U5K0 (talk) 10:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Done/Lokal _Profil 16:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Awesome maps

I just opened the EU article and saw your image. Great work. If you don't mind answering, what 3d software did you use to "make" the globe? I also suggest you do one for Canada and/or Indonesia. -- 08:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool thanks. -- 17:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

India map

I wonder if you can create a orthographic for India. Anyways your orthographic are wonderful for many other big countries too such as Brazil, Australia, Argentina, Kazakhstan; also for the mid-size unions such as African Union, Union of South American Nations, Association of Southeast Asian Nations. Darknshadow (talk) 02:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

UK Map

Do you thinl you could make a global map for the UK? —78.148.129.34 (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Thanks

Map work

Greetings! I am the (primary) author of BlankMap-World6.svg, a world map often used for country locators, at least until your maps came along! ;) I am duly impressed (puts my pitiful SVG skills to deep shame!) I know there will always be a place for my map (primarily for showing world-wide data - indeed I made it easy to show this by having the countries easily selectable - something the orthographic maps of yours obviously can't show), but I want to add to the voices to have your orthographic maps used for all country locations, at least the larger ones. I'm thinking as a fellow SVG cartographer, if you could have a look at my map and contribute any suggestions and improvements (Wikipedia being what it is, you're free to fiddle with the file, of course) - I plan on adding the EU as a option for people to select in the next update (hopefully by month's end). --Canuckguy (talk) 02:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you very much! Yes, obviously the "flat" map projections that show the whole world will always be able to illustrate things which the orthographic map can't. I honestly can't see anything wrong with your map (but yes, adding the EU as a borderless option is probably a good idea). What I've done with the orthographic maps doesn't involve magic; it's pretty much just finding the ideal "coordinates" in the generator ([2]), converting it to an SVG, merging the land area and turning lakes and rivers into holes in it, removing the default black shorelines, altering colours (adding the colours from the robinson) and adding a shade. - SSJ ☎ 18:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Orthographic maps

Hi, Ssolbergj.

I've seen your masp and I most congratulate you by it's genius original simplicity. I've notice they've asked you for maps of Brazil (all ready uploaded) and also Argentina, Australia and Kazakhstan. Well, looking at this, I'd like to request you for a map of another special countries (geographically speaking): Chile (it always fix badly beacuse of it's long), Greenland (because of it's latitude). I'd be also glad for Commons to have a map of Peru, but it doesn't seems to be as important as the other ones appointed before.

By the way, I've adjusted the colours for the common svg locator maps format colors.

--Huhsunqu (talk) 05:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Yes i think I'll make maps for the countries you mentioned there some time soon. I'm on my school's wireless network right now; I haven't got internet at home for the time being. - SSJ ☎ 12:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sri Lankan orthographic Map

I'v seen your many orthographic Maps of other countries and I was hoping that you could make one for Sri Lanka. They are very good and up to date.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackknight12 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it, but I'm afraid there are hundreds of medium-size countries, so I'll probably prioritise the bigger ones first (e.g. Australia, Argentina, Kazhakstan). But I'll give a discription on how to make the maps soon, so that other people can speed it up. - SSJ ☎ 12:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Schengen Agreement map.svg

Hi. Can you please change the color of the UK and Ireland on Image:Schengen Agreement map.svg to make it less similar to the rest of the EU? It must be my eyes, or my monitor, or both, but the difference is nearly indiscernible. Thanks! ☆ CieloEstrellado 08:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this ok? - SSJ ☎ 10:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Amazing Map!!!

Is it possible to get the round world map projection with it centering on Germany (with political borders)? It is for a project I am working on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romanius (talk • contribs) 01:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful maps!

Hey! You're doing wonderful with the cool maps you did for USA, Mexico, Canada etc. Can't you do one for Sweden too? It would be great! --Karachh (talk) 02:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate the fact that you're suggesting it, but I'm afraid there are hundreds of medium-size countries. But I'll give a discription on how to make the maps soon, so that other people can speed it up. For each new country, the globe needs to be rotated to a new 'position' - that's what's taking so much time to fix in the SVG program. Anyways, are you sure the georgraphical size of Sweden is big enough for a "global" map projection? - SSJ ☎ 23:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Commons: orthographic proyection

Hi! I loved your maps in an orthographic proyection, they are so beautiful. I think the size of Bahia is big, it's bigger than many countries. Can you do a locator map of Bahia in an orthographic proyection, please? Look at the map of Bahia (one state brazilian) here. Excuse me if English is not very good. Please, use one of these talk pages: commons or pt.wikipedia, thanks. Luan (talk) 20:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

All right. It is a pity, but do what, isn't? Thanks and good lock. ;] Luan (talk) 00:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of P:ar

I have nominated P:ar (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz ^talk 02:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Kalmar Union c. 1500-de.svg

Hello! I've seen you have overwritten my version of this map with yours. First of all I would like to know who says that there are "standard colours" for thematic mapping? I work at de: and there we don't have such standards. Then you deleted the text inside the map. Now this map doesn't work as a map on its own but needs an extra description. That's no good cartography. As the file name ends with -de it's clear that this is a German map. It would have been easy to create an -en version just by translating. Now the -de ending is completely senseless. And in the end I am quite surprised that you didn't contact me for it. I'm still active in Wikipedia and I can see no reason for overwriting it without a note. Your version of the map is just different but definitely not better. You easily could have uploaded it with a different name. --NNW (talk) 11:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Euro#Eurozone

Hi there,

What did you mean with "wikify" that section of that article? I think I can definitely help to improve that section.

Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

The section is currently a hybrid between a list and prose in the form of quasi sub-section bulletpoints. I personally think that's something that needs to be wikified, i.e. to be rewritten and reorganised into one ore more conventional chunks of text. Aside from wikification, bringing in the political and institutional aspects of the euro area would probably also make sense in that section. - SSJ ☎ 11:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

True, but the section is following the same standards as the whole article. As you can see I am not the only one that see nothing wrong with the section (someone else reverted your change). I would suggest you bring this topic to the talk page of the article, maybe the whole article layout need to change. Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 02:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

India map

Dear Ssolbergj, your map of China colors Arunachal Pradesh in light green (together with Taiwan)which implies it is somehow rather a part of CHina although under Indian administration. Why then doesn't the India map have Aksai Chin (a Chinese administered region claimed by India) be colored light green on the India map? Same goes with Pakistan occupied kashmir. Shouldn't those areas be in light green too? Please maintain neutrality as prescribed under Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. I look forward to you recoloring those maps with a NPOV in mind and not China slanted views. (Reference: [3] vs [4]. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.49.35.196 (talk) 13:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox EU legislation

User:Physchim62 and I merged {{EU directive}} and {{EU regulation}} today into {{Infobox EU legislation}}. {{EU directive}} and {{EU regulation}} can still be used, but use {{Infobox EU legislation}} now. Since you edited the template a lot, you might like to have your say on Template talk:Infobox EU legislation. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 02:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Ssolbergj

Contents

EU countries and the euro

Switzerland and the European Union / Use of the Euro in Switzerland

Frenchification

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Euronews logo text.svg)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Euronews logo globe.png)

Categories

EU Insignia

Template:Foreign relations of the European Union

CERN gallery

Brussels plans

Green E

Image:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Nordic_Battlegroup_of_the_European_Union.svg

Amazing Map

Cool maps

Map Request if possible?

Image:Location ESA member countries.svg

Awesome maps

India map

UK Map

Map work

Orthographic maps

Sri Lankan orthographic Map

Image:Schengen Agreement map.svg

Amazing Map!!!

Wonderful maps!

Commons: orthographic proyection

RfD nomination of P:ar

Image:Kalmar Union c. 1500-de.svg

Euro#Eurozone

India map

Template:Infobox EU legislation